Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast

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  • Ep.1: Learning from the Free America Walkout
    8/29/25

    Ep.1: Learning from the Free America Walkout

    In the first episode of the Apocalypric Optimist Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher speaks with Rachel O’Leary Carmona and Tamika Middleton from the Women’s March on what we can learn from the Free America Walkout.

  • Ep. 2: Why Solidarity Is So Hard—and How We Build It Anyway
    8/29/25

    Ep. 2: Why Solidarity Is So Hard—and How We Build It Anyway

    In Episode 2 of the Apocalyptic Optimist Podcast , Dana talks with Dr. Rashawn Ray about the realities of building solidarity in a deeply divided moment. From his work with communities-of-color and police departments to learning from the Black Lives Matter movement, Dr. Ray breaks down what works, what doesn’t, and how people can show up as more effective racial justice advocates right now.